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What is important when it comes to investing? Or which is the more important – what you know or what you do?
Sometimes the more you know – the harder it is to invest – information overload – can be a curse of knowledge – if you knew nothing but over the past 20 years just bought index funds – better off than if you knew everything (which nobody does) but never invested a single dollar –
In this episode – talk about Investing actions – over knowledge
- Obviously, knowledge helps – helps you plan and know which actions to take – but the actions that you take can make the difference between Financial Independence or Financial dependence
- Taking action versus theory – why? Well even sometimes fundamentals aren’t important – the knowledge of fundamentals
- Even at the moment – The current market gains – even against a backdrop of deteriorating economics and fundamental news and data – this is certainly a worry – but it does make sense with Central Banks furiously flooding the system with liquidity
- So the risk of using knowledge is essentially fighting the Fed – and that is a losing position
- Market has a pavlovian response to the Fed now – Something that I have learnt more during the past few months
- Even at the moment – The current market gains – even against a backdrop of deteriorating economics and fundamental news and data – this is certainly a worry – but it does make sense with Central Banks furiously flooding the system with liquidity
- This podcast – provides lots of theory and hope I am providing knowledge – important to not get bogged down in this solely – needs to be practically applied –
- However – On mass – I can tell everyone what to do – as that wouldn’t be right – one solution doesn’t meet everyone’s needs – would be irresponsible –
- but you can use strategies that you learn to practically apply
How to start taking actions – process of how to build you own Simple Rules to live by
- Life has to be an iterative process – Iteration is the repetition of a process in order to generate a sequence of outcomes. The sequence will approach some end point or end value. Each repetition of the process is a single iteration, and the outcome of each iteration is then the starting point of the next iteration
- Take actions and learn from them = what doesn’t work change – what does work keep doing – demonstrable actions is important
- Do more of what works and less of what doesn’t.
- Use your knowledge to build rules – over time You will build additional Rules – and these will help you make action – keep the process going – action after action
- Takes some time to get rules in place – then action can flow
Set goals and be actionable – it sounds very simple – but there are steps involved
- Always remember – You are investing in your future – have to put goals in place
- Need to know where you want to go to get there –
- Actions – if you were going to take a road trip – planning and actions
- You can know where you want to go but unless you get in the car and drive you aren’t going to get anywhere
- Need to know where you want to go to get there –
- Won’t run through goal setting – but there are workbooks and tools in the members section of the website if you haven’t got any or need help – financeandfury.com.au
- You can negotiate with your future self – and your future wealth – Be actionable about it – if you want it, you can get it – Start now and never stop – The future catches up on you – just have to adjust course
- Earlier you start the more you will have – the more actions you will take – the more you will learn – the more your future will thank you
- When looking at goals – Think long term and big picture – Think about what your future looks like
- What you want to do, and how much you need to do it
- Rule of 20 – Plan to get a 5% income off investments – E.G. – $100,000 = $2,000,000 asset base
- If you aren’t sure what this looks like – Work it out
- Need to have a plan in place as it is hard to work towards something that you don’t know
- Invest well and don’t lose money repeatedly – Taking appropriate actions – first step is to watch out for taking too much risk – but also not enough
- Normally the thought when it comes to investing and the risks associated are that you are going to lose money – normally the first thing that comes to mind
- But there is another major risk in investing – losing money by not investing – sounds weird but you miss a good future opportunity through sitting on the sidelines through your life – i.e. holding cash long term
- So you can eliminate either one, but you can’t eliminate both at the same time
- Need to take some risks for rewards – but how do you position yourself between the two – by taking the right actions –
- Caution is important – but taking actions over time will build investment maturity – but any investment discipline that you build over the years does not work if it is not followed
- Remember that losing some money is part of the investment process – I have lost plenty of money over the past 15 years of personally investing – but I have learnt a lot for them – they are expensive lessons
- It comes back to managing risk and volatility
- important to have a process that can mitigate the risk of loss in your portfolio- if done right – does this mean you will never lose money? Of course, not.
- The goal is not to lose so much money you can’t recover from it and set up a portfolio and investment actions that ensure that you take the right level of risk
- How – quality and diversification
- Quality – Don’t invest in hope of large instant gains – takes years to get good compounding gains, doesn’t happen overnight – investing out of hope = Losing funds will destroy your future
- Diversify – to start – At least 15 – 30 companies (or a few ETFs/LICs) across different asset classes and sectors
- REMEMBER: Invest in line with the big picture – i.e. Passive income of 5%
- Having 20 properties is no good if they are negatively geared – costing more than you earn
- The one action that can make things worse is giving in to your emotions –the desire of getting rich quick – or panic selling –
- Constant battle against the desire to get rich can lead to investing in bubbles or getting caught out in a fraud like Bernie Madoff or Storm Financial
- Ignore your emotions – Unemotionalism – important to not get trapped by making a bad decision based around fear or greed
- If you are too emotional – may have the tendency to buy at the top and sell at the bottom – why?
- Get trapped into the emotions of everybody in the market – euphoric when prices are high or sell when everyone is afraid
- Takes time to reduce your emotions when investing – practice and patience
- Therefore – unemotionalism is one of the most important criteria for taking successful actions in investing
- if you can’t be unemotional – and train yourself not to be – maybe you should not invest your own money
- Investment action of contrarianism – doing the contrary of what everybody else is doing – therefore not being emotional is one of the basic requirements for contrarianism
- Major emotions – fear and greed – these are what drive the market
- Invest out of greed – wanting returns – sell to avoid loss – makes markets crash – these two emotions are why being unemotional when it comes to your money is a very hard thing to do.
- Take for instance – times such as now – logic states that we must participate in the market long term – but the fear of the market going down may be holding people back –
- That is where these emotions – if they are felt strongly enough create a situation of taking extremes – not investing at all or investing everything hoping the market continues on a bull run
- Do emotions still seep into our decision-making process? Of course. Paying attention to greed and fear of others is important –
- Pay attention to your emotions – others are likely having them as well –
- But making Emotionally driven decisions void the investment process- When markets are trading at, or near, extremes do the opposite of the herd
- Be patient – Don’t rush in based on fundamentals like PE or Yield – as these may likely be changing soon – Don’t try to go for big wins quickly – Doing this is the only way I have lost money – investing out of hope
How do you improve? One small thing at a time. That is the process to improvement.
- Financial habits are built through the positive feedback of cue, action, and reward.
- These decisions years ago have improved my position now.
- That is the relationship with good habits. Keep improving you slowly over time.
- Taking actions put you into the Pareto distribution or 80/20 rule.
- 20% who have 80%, they have been able to grow good habits, that have compounding effects
- It is as simple as investing and waiting. $20k today would be $80k in 14 years at 10%
- Track your progress to get to your ideal future
- Be honest with yourself – somebody has to (or have your partner keep each other accountable)
Summary for Putting it in place and continue making actions
- Figure out what you want to do
- Hardest part for some people to answer
- Look at your expenses – What your ideal lifestyle costs
- Also, when do you want it by?
- Time matters thanks to inflation – $1 today is not $1 in 10 years
- Apply the rule of 20
- What asset base will you need?
- Apply inflation – 2.5% by the time
- Reverse engineer your targets
- Play around with online calculators with how much you need to save each money to get there
- Just do it – Action is more important than planning – not that planning isnt important – but doing both is even better
- You can know what to do – but if you don’t do anything then it will never happen
- Start taking actions – if you aren’t already – Don’t be a victim – don’t blame others
- Take control as nobody else will do it for you
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