Say What Wednesday
The skinny on spare change investment apps and building wealth when you’re earning $25,000 or less a year.
Welcome to Say What Wednesdays – Where we answer your personal finance questions each week.
Two questions this week from Chris:
No 1
what are your thoughts on investing through a platform such as acorns? In your opinion do you see it as reliable and a worthwhile investment option? Furthermore, with such platforms would you say that there is a degree of double fees being taken out (platform fees and ETF fees for underlying investments e.g. ASX ETF’s) which erode earnings?
No 2
What is the best way for people on a low income (around $25,000 p.a.), such as students and job seekers to start building a growth portfolio?
Platforms
What are they? – Ways to hold all of your investments in one place
- Types – three types
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- Raiz (Acorns) – Investment application (app)
- Allows for micro investing – automatic investments
- Limited choice of options – Growth Option, etc
- Investment Platforms are a bit different
- Allows for accessing managed funds, shares at wholesale level
- Range of choices of funds
- Broking platforms
- Direct shares mostly
- Raiz (Acorns) – Investment application (app)
- Costs – Admin fees
- Raiz – 0.275% p.a.
- Investment platforms – platform fees generally higher
- Flat fees – $175 to $600 p.a.
- Percentages – 0.4% to 0.1%
- Broking platforms
- Transactional costs when you buy/sell investments
- Benefits
- Raiz
- Nice, simple easy way to start
- Automatic savings takes away the hands-on approach
- Passive
- Platforms
- You can have actively managed funds
- Specialist Managed funds in certain sectors
- I have an account – Buy small cap, micro-cap, international, emerging market fund etc. Wouldn’t really get that much in the way of large cap here, as that is ETF
- Small cap – 25% p.a. for the past 8 years
- Worth it if you know how to use it right
- For ETFs, shares, Large cap, probably not worth it.
- They do consolidated tax statements for you (that’s what the admin fees are for)
- Don’t have to meet minimums on fund purchases – $25k to $500k
- Broking
- Benefits – no ongoing holding costs
- Can buy the same ETF in RAIZ in broking platforms, for broking costs
- Upfront costs may be higher, but no ongoing.
- Raiz
In my opinion, if you are starting out, probably better to start somewhere than not start at all
- Especially if you aren’t familiar with investments or good at saving, may as well go with app to do it for you. Better to start with something then never start.
- Broking platforms – Can have large upfront costs
- Investment platforms are good, if you have enough to justify it
- But only if you use the specialist funds that you have access to – geared, emerging markets, micro-cap, etc.
To answer Chris’s second question
There are two options for students
- Hands on/personally invest
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- Focus on Franking credits, or high growth long term – You will get more back in income than what you would pay in tax
- Need low transaction costs and diversified – Good Fully Franked LICs or ETFs are an easy place to start
- Super co-contributions – free money
- $1,000 (post tax) = $1500 investment
- Comparison over 3 years at university, while earning below $37k p.a
- It’s a boring answer for long term benefits – superannuation as an investment vehicle!
Each year you put $1,000 into super, or $1,000 into the same investments personally. Who wins?
- Either way you put $3,000 towards investments
- In super you get an extra $1,500 (or 50% return) straight away!
- By the time you access it, say 40 years, earning 8% p.a. (4% income, 4% growth)
- Personally, after you get taxed on the income at say 34.5% = $37,031
- Super gets taxed at 15% = $72,965
Awesome questions Chris! I hope I covered off on it all.
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